Give and Take

Conversations at the Heart of the Matter

About the show

Someone once observed that if Howard Stern and Krista Tippett had a love child, it would be Scott Jones. Scott liked that.

At "Give and Take,” Scott Jones talks with artists, authors, theologians, and political pundits about the lens through which they experience life. With empathy, humor, and a deep knowledge of religion, current events, and pop culture, Scott engages his guests in a free-flowing conversation that's entertaining, unexpected, occasionally bizarre, and oftentimes enlightening. He likes people, and it shows.

Past interviewees include Mark Oppenheimer, Melissa Febos, David French, Miroslav Volf, Dan Savage, Nadia Bolz-Weber, Rob Bell, and (yes) Krista Tippett.

Scott is the former host and producer of the popular Mockingcast podcast ( and an in-demand consultant on all things “pod.” He’s also the co-host, with Bill Borror, of New Persuasive Words ( Scott is also a prolific writer, a frequent conference speaker, a PhD candidate in Theology, and an ordained minister.

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  • Episode 47: The Humanity of God, with Kenneth Tanner

    August 27th, 2017  |  55 mins 7 secs

    The Rev. Kenneth Tanner is pastor of Church of the Holy Redeemer in Rochester Hills, Mich. He writes for numerous websites and magazines, including The Huffington Post and Sojourners.

  • Episode 46: The Brand/Design Connection, with MacKenzie Kuhns

    August 23rd, 2017  |  42 mins 12 secs

    My guest is MacKenzie Kuhns. She is the founder and owner of Stillz Design, a strategic design studio. She has always loved creating, curating and the value of aesthetic and design, which is why she is passionate about helping small business owners communicate their passions and crafts through strategic design.

  • Episode 45: Money Talks, with Evan Money

    August 19th, 2017  |  1 hr 21 mins

    My guest is Evan Money. Evan in a bestselling author, Global Entrepreneur and Executive Producer of the ground breaking film "Words of Art." His most recent book is "Money Talks, Frustration Walks."

  • Episode 44: White Privilege and the Myth of Equality, with Ken Wytsma

    August 17th, 2017  |  42 mins 32 secs

    My guest is Ken Wytsma. He is the lead pastor of global ministries at Antioch Church and is president of Kilns College, where he teaches courses on philosophy and justice. His most recent book is "The Myth Of Equality: Uncovering the Roots of Injustice and Privilege."

  • Episode 43: No Longer Alone, with Melinda Inman

    August 6th, 2017  |  1 hr 21 mins

    Melinda Viergever Inman is a prodigal with a passion to write. She authors fiction illustrating God's love for wounded people, making beauty of ashes. The most recent of her three novels is "No Longer Alone." It's based on a true story.

  • Episode 42: Nurture The Wow, with Danya Ruttenberg

    August 3rd, 2017  |  49 mins 38 secs

    Danya Ruttenberg writes books about the messy business of trying to be a person in the world, and how spirituality can inform and transform that work. Sometimes that’s about parenting, sometimes feminism, sex, God, justice, or joy. Her most recent book, "Nurture The Wow", has just been released in paperback.

  • Episode 41: Girls Gone Old, with Fiona Helmsley

    July 28th, 2017  |  51 mins 1 sec

    My guest is Fiona Helmsley. Her most recent book of essays is entitled "Girls Gone Old."

  • Episode 40: What Is Neo-Liberalism & Why It Matters, with Michael Konczal

    July 26th, 2017  |  49 mins 41 secs

    My guest is Mike Konczal. He is a Fellow with the Roosevelt Institute, where he works on financial reform, unemployment, inequality, and a progressive vision of the economy. He has recently written some pieces for Vox on Neo-Liberalism, which were the subject of our conversation.

  • Episode 39: Game of Thrones and the Games Politicians Play, with David French

    July 25th, 2017  |  1 hr 9 mins

    My guest is David French. He is a senior writer for National Review, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute, an attorney (concentrating his practice in constitutional law and the law of armed conflict), and a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom. He also knows a lot about Game of Thrones.

  • Episode 38: Live Show At The Philly Podcast Festival, with Peter Crimmins

    July 24th, 2017  |  46 mins 3 secs

    My guest is Peter Crimmins, Arts & Culture reporter for WHYY, Philadelphia's NPR affialite station. This show was taped live at the Philadelphia Podcast Festival.

  • Episode 37: Strange Beauty, with Eliza Factor

    July 21st, 2017  |  49 mins 53 secs

    My guest is Eliza Factor. Her most recent book is a memoir entitled "Strange Beauty."

  • Episode 36: Faithful Presence, with David Fitch

    July 20th, 2017  |  1 hr 19 mins

    My guest is David Fitch. He's a pastor, theologian and author of numerous books. His most recent book is "Faithful Presence: How God Shapes the Church for the Sake of the World. "

  • Episode 35: Eat Your Heart Out, with Tiffany Ann Dwyer

    July 19th, 2017  |  37 mins 52 secs

    Tiffaney Ann is a health and wellness coach specializing in food philosophy, an Essential Oils educator, wife, mother and Real Life advocate. Her passion is influencing others to love themselves (whatever that means) without guilt.

  • Episode 34: All The Beautiful People We Once Knew, With Edward Carlson

    July 14th, 2017  |  55 mins 1 sec

    My guest is Edward Carlson. His debut novel is "All The Beautiful People We Once Knew." He is a New York shipping lawyer by trade.

  • Episode 33: Evolution 2.0, with Perry Marshall

    July 6th, 2017  |  1 hr 8 mins

    My guest is Perry Marshall. Perry is an author, speaker, engineer and world-renowned business consultant in Chicago. His newest book, "Evolution 2.0", builds its case on standard, peer reviewed mainstream research. It seeks to resolve the conflict between Darwin and Design, opening new avenues of science research and raising tantalizing new questions.

  • Episode 32: International Women's Year: The Greatest Consciousness-Raising Event In History, with Jocelyn Olcott

    June 22nd, 2017  |  1 hr 6 mins

    My guest is Jocelyn Olcott. She is Associate Professor of History and Gender, Sexuality, and Feminist Studies at Duke University. She is the author of, most recently, "International Women’s Year: The Greatest Consciousness-Raising Event in History".