Matthew J. Milliner
Special guest
Matthew J. Milliner is professor of art history at Wheaton College. He holds an M.A. & Ph.D. in art history from Princeton University, and an M.Div from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is a seven-time appointee to the Curatorial Advisory Board of the United States Senate. He has written for publications ranging from The New York Times to First Things, and is author of The Everlasting People _(InterVarsity Press, 2021) and _Mother of the Lamb (Fortress Press, 2022). He writes a monthly column at Comment Magazine entitled Material Mysticism.
Matthew J. Milliner has been a guest on 1 episode.
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Episode 316: Mary, Protestants, and the Mystery of Christmas
December 24th, 2025 | 1 hr 4 mins
On this special Christmas Eve episode of Give and Take, Scott Jones is joined by Professor Matthew Milliner of Wheaton College for a thoughtful and unexpected conversation about Mary—seen through Protestant eyes. Often sidelined or approached with hesitation in Protestant theology, Mary nevertheless stands at the very center of the Christmas story. Milliner, an art historian and theologian, helps recover a richer Protestant appreciation of Mary by drawing on Scripture, church history, and the visual imagination of the Christian tradition. Together, Scott and Matthew explore how Mary’s faith, obedience, and vulnerability shape a deeper understanding of the Incarnation—and why reclaiming her place need not blur confessional lines.
On a night set apart for wonder and anticipation, this conversation invites listeners to slow down and reconsider the woman who first said “yes” to God, and what her story still has to teach Protestants about Christmas, discipleship, and the mystery at the heart of the Christian faith.